Comments on: Jasleen Kaur: Guilty Until Proven Innocent Or Innocent Until Proven Guilty – Open Debate https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/ Startup and Motivation Thu, 21 May 2020 07:45:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Vinay Nagaraju https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10370 Wed, 02 Sep 2015 05:15:30 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10370 In reply to uday.

Hi Uday, its a shame you didnt read through the entire thing. I guess we have highlighted pretty much the same points and debated the possibilities as well. I think you would have noticed if you had read the post that we are not debating what happened and who is wrong. We are debating the role of social media, the way something seemingly irrelevant was considered a proof and its further implications.

I agree with your second point. I think more than the financial aspect or the freedom aspect, it is really important to note that we live in an egalitarian society and oppression doesn’t stand anymore. Even if there is oppression in the smallest sense, it doesn’t pay in the society anymore and that is the morale and logic we want to portray for we are looking at making our world and our environment a slightly better place.

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By: uday https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10354 Tue, 01 Sep 2015 14:13:26 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10354 sorry but Ilost interest after the first paragraph. one can guess what happened. It was not sexual harassment but rude and intimidating behaviour towards a girl in public. the boyreacted aggressively when she asked him not to go through the red light. He was rude and crass, she did not take it lightly and reported the matter to the police with his photo proof.
She proceeded to put his photo on FB to shame him as he had done to her in public.Normally in such cases nothing happens and the cops give a warning and allow the offender to go but this boy has lost face on the social media. politicians and public alike have come in support of the girl and later more people have come in sp of the boy. both seem to have lost credibility but boys and girls need to act more maturely now that they will have to interact more and more as women come out of their houses to earn a living and become financially independent like their male counterparts

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By: Vinay Nagaraju https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10322 Tue, 01 Sep 2015 03:49:08 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10322 In reply to Somali K Chakrabarti.

True Somali. I too lived in Delhi for about a year and I hear what you are talking about it. Such cases are really very possible and the eve teasing issue seems to be on an all time rise. I think perhaps that is the reason why all the media channels and the police jumped in to take action on that guy. It was unfortunate that it all happened or appears to happen for a public stunt. What worries me is that just cos of a couple of frivolous cases like these, it is very easy to put away the genuine ones. It is like the girl who cried wolf and no one really comes to rescue when the real wolf is around. The harassment is a huge issue and we need to find solutions for that. Maybe citizen assertiveness can be a good start on this front.

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By: Somali K Chakrabarti https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10313 Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:04:28 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10313 Vinay, both sides of the story are possible. While I don’t appreciate the hype around it – award and the arrest based on FB post, and subsequent allegation on Jasleen, but having grown up and lived in Delhi for a considerably long time, I know for sure that such incidents (as cited by Jasleen) are very very likely. Such remarks are commonplace, however vulgar they sound and people deal with these with a chalta hai attitude. How on earth do you know that the eye witness is not lying?

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By: Vinay Nagaraju https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10259 Fri, 28 Aug 2015 13:49:16 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10259 In reply to Shamsud Ahmed.

He he, it is like a funny tale unfolding. Probably it turns out that fooling a whole country of people is not as easy as she thought it would be. Well, it is funny to see what people do for a little attention and their own personal gains. It is a matter beyond shame. It kinda gives a horrible feeling about public relations and self promotions.. :(

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By: Vinay Nagaraju https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10258 Fri, 28 Aug 2015 13:47:54 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10258 In reply to pradeep.

True Pradeep. I do see a point why the media came in support of the girl in the initial stages. Maybe cos this seemed as a regular occurrence of eve teasing and the media felt really good that someone actually stood their ground and hoped that she would be the start of a revolution. But looking from this angle now creates a sense of distrust and irritation which makes me wonder what is right or wrong. Gosh! It is such a shame that we are supposed to doubt the very essence what the fourth estate is putting in front of us.

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By: Vinay Nagaraju https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10257 Fri, 28 Aug 2015 13:46:05 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10257 In reply to Archana Kapoor.

That will be an interesting read Archana. Please do share it here when you write, I am sure my readers would love your perspective. The whole issue puts me at such a doubt Archana – whom to believe and whom not to and how much of a media report should we believe in, what we should neglect. Sheesh, it really feels awful to be at this stage of distrust!

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By: Vinay Nagaraju https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10255 Fri, 28 Aug 2015 13:43:11 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10255 In reply to Maniparna Sengupta Majumder.

At the first instance Maniparna, to be very honest even I appreciated the girl that she stood her ground on what appeared to be a violation of her rights. But then I was quite surprised that action was taken against him based on that photograph as a proof. It kept me wondering whether it was just bullying of the legal system just cos someone could. I am not really sure who is right or wrong here, but I wonder on the grounds of action taken against him. I worry about the further implications of an incident like this, if the girl is false then no one is going to believe a true case when or if something like this really happens. Just for the selfish petty fight of a stupid girl, a real case has to suffer? – That is really not done at all!!

It feels really sad that everything is being taken for granted so easily and the bullies seem to have their way. And this case seems like bullying just cos the girl could – that is if she has registered a false complaint.

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By: Shamsud Ahmed https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10252 Fri, 28 Aug 2015 07:56:18 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10252 kind of funny. Today in the morning I saw she was trying to ignore TV channels when they questioned him. Why did not she first go to the Police and instead used FB. This is one reason why Mr. Zuckerberg is happily making his bank account fat and claiming one in seven people on the planet used Facebook. Its Crazy

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By: pradeep https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10248 Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:34:10 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10248 In reply to pradeep.

*the boy

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By: pradeep https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10247 Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:15:36 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10247 big thanks to zee tv a witness has come forward in support of a boy its highly probable the girl is at fault,the elderly witness even told that the girl was spewing filthy language unlike her composed interviews…no eye witness has supported the girl yet..the girl is playing on girl card to settle apparently a minor altercation

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By: Archana Kapoor https://inspire99.com/jasleen-kaur-guilty-until-proven-innocent-or-innocent-until-proven-guilty-open-debate/#comment-10246 Thu, 27 Aug 2015 20:22:25 +0000 http://inspire99.com/?p=8739#comment-10246 Desh and I were having a huge debate on this one… but there are mixed feelings… perhaps we’ll write something on it too…
But Vinay – something like this was long overdue, given that practically no justice has been meted out in Jyoti Singh’s case…

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